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Idk man, yeah this is 10 months old, but even back then that ranking was questionable to say the least. Like putting Havoc in the hard tier is pretty wild honestly. Yes, the rotation is really complex if youre min-maxing. However, the class is so god damn overtuned that youre easily gonna dish out the throughput of other non-ret-melees by not aligning your burst cds at all. Havoc being squishy is a flatout lie. Yes, its more prone to receiving one-shots as a leather class, but these arent supposed to happen unless youre pushing in the top 1% range. What matters for your average top 10% player is sustain, and Havocs passive self-healing is unparalleled, these fuckers can sustain themselves at 15 tyra HoI bosses with zero oppurtunity cost. Finally, I partially disagree with the 'more utility = more responsibility' take. Having an abundance of crowd control makes the gameplay more interactive and therefore challenging, yes. However, having these cc's also contributes to the classes survivability and its ability to deal damage without bothering positioning. Frost DK on the other hand is greatly overrated in terms of its simplicity. Yes, its core rotation is basically a two-button-situation and the burst windows usually boil down to pillar every 60 second with runeweapon every third pillar and frostwyrm every 2nd pillar. However, Frost DK suffers extremely from melee downtime due to its dependancy on critical autos and staying in DaD. Maximizing your pillar window easily generates 50% variance between an average and a good Frost DK since just like with rogues, your baseline hits like a wet noodle. And while the self-sustain provided by death strike is very strong, Frost is heavily gcd-locked and a high apm spec (comparable to fury in that regard). It sacrifices a serious amount of damage and pillar uptime with each wasted global. Not saying Frost is hard by any means, but its definatly intermediate, a lot harder than yolo ret paladins, harder than fury warriors and windwalkers and less hard than cats and rogues.

What a mess this game has become. New players won’t stand a chance.

Got all the mounts and mogs, why would you continue. I got it all done in about 2 weeks.

demonology A plus unholy is s tier what the hell you doing man..im top every raid behind ret pally sometimes thats it

I dropped mop after a week, their mismanagement ruined a good idea

For some people the addon Vocal Rais Assistant might be super beneficial to keep a good overview of what their group is doing! (Transparency: I'm the author, so I might be biased, but you decide!)

I have never watched one of these videos before but I loved it. Something about it made me feel like a kid again. Maybe the voice and the light background music, and then the tips section, it felt like I was reading an issue of GamePro magazine when I was 14. I mean this in the best way possible. Subscribed.

441 ilvl for heroics? I can’t even get into a normal raid at 485 ilvl. When I ask why I get booted it’s because “ilvl to low. We ain’t trying to carry you” 😒

This, like most "tier lists" was way off 10 months ago and now it's even farther off.

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Make videos about other borderline god comps ppl should try in M+

New-ish wow player here, i picked up a havoc demonhunter bc i really like illidan and the whole idea of the edgy elvers, but now at m0 and m+ i noticed that i need nigh flawless execution of my class to perform ,,well" i wondered if it really was just me being a idiot or if the class is just oddly hard and this proves it is hard. so i will switch to something easier so i can have less of a hard time playing wow

I just came back to play after 16yrs. What in holy hell did you guys do to WoW its an ugly top down mess of spell vomit. How do you like playing this garbage??

DPS needs to prioritize interrupts. It’s not worth to kick a low damage spell cast so the healer can do a little bit of dps.

Blizzard games are bogged down by systems that’s why we need a PhD.

Healer is not responsible for interrupt. Priest doesn't have one and rdruid's interrupt is not practical. But as a priest, i always use my aoe cc (not a real interrupt but close enough) because what else can you do for pugging?

Great video tbh! I so have quite a bit of bronze(gems) for sale if anyone want to purchase those for retail gold!

Remix is silly. It's like... if you enjoy chess, but don't want to play an evenly matched opponent and instead set a chess computer to such low level that you can dominate it every game. Then play it over and over. You're not learning anything, not getting better, and the outcome of every game is predetermined. Maybe it's therapy for players who are tired of challenge? To me it gets boring really fast.

I go back and forth on Shadow Priest. On one hand, the core rotation is pretty simple without being boring, and the class is definitely a vibe. On the other hand, it feels like the spec relies too much on massive 30sec+ cooldowns to really do big damage, which is clunky and boring.

Who actually uses wasd to move ?

remix is like getting old in real life :) you lose some of your power every day(level)

I am sure Remix is heaps of fun for the people who went hard and got mega upgraded. As someone who didn't, it's just been an okay alt leveling experience to get a bunch of allied races to 50 so I can do their heritage armour quests and a nice revisit of Pandaria. I am in the process of being carried through Heroic raids for my Bones of Mannoroth by OP players and I do no damage and might as well not be there. Bless the 'charity run' hosts lol.

More remix🎉❤. I love this event, i like the grind. Got every mount now and almost every transmog i like. Have tried out new classes, have 7 alts. My main is max geared. Have almost every gear as well from the currency you get from doing Soo on mythic and heroic. Will play some moore on my main and then i might do 2 moore alts. We will see, maybe i take a break idk but its lots of fun!

Panda Express didn’t interest me in the slightest.

As a WoW dad, I'm enjoying everything. I've cleared half the raids on heroic in mop remix, and got most achievements done. Ive also cleared every DF raid heroic and just building up ilvl with m+ to go mythic raid. By then I'll go back to remix and finish off what's left for me to complete

ahhaha they used footage from Gaz lets go :D, great vid though!

WoW at its peak, Healing is keeping your whole group alive. WoW during its decline, you need to do dmg but not so much that people die but enough that you out dps other people and classes. I wonder why the game started to decline......

Id love to see boss guides and routes etc for two s1

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I don’t get your idea of it not being alt friendly. There are many things in remix you can only do once a day and you won’t get anything extra by doing it again. If you have alts, you can then do those things multiple times a day to get the same reward multiple times per day. If the intention is to get bronze to buy vendor stuff, then having more than 1 character is definitely more efficient than doing everything on one?

Enh. Shaman C-tier ? I am laughing hard wtf 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

honestly i think the real problem is that they nerfed the farms and i do think remix is honestly the helthier option for the game becourse now were hitting those caps on driffent thing like i play my DH and at some point getting the eyebeam allways crits tallent was not needed whit a 110% crit so using the brain and reading acitly works then theres the fact that yerh your "OP" how ever that also ment that ALOT of the unused classes are now viable and you don't really care if the druid is playing boomkin or feral or the sharman is enhancment or elimental or the hunter is BM or markmen or suvival (no joke i have seen 4x more suvival hunters then i have seen in all my years outside of remix) like no joke people can play whatever they won't in it and its okay like i'm not stuck in a que for 120 days it feels wird but REALLY nice to get to play the fucking game insted of sitting there waiting (and yes i did que up for m+ for 4 month straigt for at least 6h a day whit out getting an invite in to anything above a 0) so for me its the freedom to play the game that makes it good i don't hate it at all the game is wird and i have seen some twinks but rearly did they supass my max lvl caretor also i did't frog farm at all i did however do like a few others in total of 1.5h also i think they over did it now to the other side like now were getting 7k ish worth of stats a day and that really only builds up but one of my friends said it best hes okay whit the stat gain but getting 3x the bronze is wild and it completly devalues all there is to remix if you did't join it to begin whit way sould they then have the right to gain all there is to it its like shitting on all of the people that really put in the time and i do have to kinda agree whit him on that if they split the currentcy in 2 and half of it is for gear and the other half is for T-morg kepping the t-morg the same and then have the gear part sped up that would have been fine it would speed it up gearing but not shitting on the people that had farmed as bad and rolling it back was a big mistake or like just roll every player and i do mean everyone back by 50% not just frogg farmers that way you respect the farmers slightly more and then the extra stat gain we have now would have been fine

Remix is hilarious. In a setting where the whole point of the main story is fighting against inner demons and controlling them, it is bringing the worst out of the players. Any group content is just ruined at this point as it immediately becomes a race to the end by the power mongers. "With great power comes great abuse of power" should be the headline of the event and it is definitely NOT fun. P.S. I say these as a guy with 2 chars that can solo heroic raids. I refuse to give in; I still help others and stay away from go-go-go/power show off.

So now i understand why i struggled so much as fire ive always only done pvp came into season 4 with season 3 pvp gear went into mythic 0 just to learn the dungs and man was tbere so many toxic players talking about my dps i had the ignite build (also new to fire always played frost in pvp) and since learned fhat fire is good for higher end keys and has to ramp up heres me dying trying to catch up with shadow priests and destro locks i almost feel even more frustrated by how toxic some plsyers were rowards me for my dps , i think im going to try out frost in pve

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Lmao man I’m sorry to say but u are off the chain stating ( Don’t worry I’ll wait and cross his arms) I love the vibes man keep up the great work🫵🏼🤙💪🏼

Remix for me is EXTREMELY dull but levelling an alt in like 5 hours is an amazing opportunity.

"low participation" but I just got KSM tonight. no problems getting into keys as a healer, so I'd argue it's not quite dead yet!

You talk about blizzard like it's the same blizzard we've been dealing with. It's not though- the reason devs didn't see the farms coming is because they are new diversity hires that have no experience developing games. Also, now that good players are done with remix, blizz has increased threads and bronze for all the stragglers, which again shows that they hate good players and reward bad players/slow players more handsomely. Again. It's a trash game with trash devs and a trash community.

ugh i fall asleep playing remix I hope it never comes back. It's just another FOMO mode.

Evoker is so much fun to play !

Fk the remix. Losers love repeating content for cosmetics. Touch some grass kids

I'm been thinking on what type of comment to write. Did you report on the remix, yes, but not in a nice way. It was more of you just complaining about it. Is remix fun, yes if you pick certain classes or just don't over all care. Are dungeons, heroic and normal, easy, very. One or two players are able to run heroic dungeons for the most part without help. This leaves the rest of the group out. It happened a few times with me but when I brought it up the group waited before pulling the boss. Why because if you get to far ahead and the boss is killed then the others will not get the kill credit so no loot. It the people that don't care about the other that is making the remix a bad experience. Those players can just run into the dungeon themselves without a group but if they did that then the dungeon wouldn't be "easy" for them. This type of player started off small but now there are a lot more and even more that don't care about their group. Is the idea behind the remix to allow players to get grind how they want and get transmogs and mounts and give them another way to level, this is the fastest way I found to level. Does it need to be "alt" friendly. Defind "alt" friendly. Can you level up alts fast, yes. So it makes it more "alt" friendier than anything else in live. If you are trying for mythic raids and getting certain achievements then stick to one character. You don't need to do it on all characters. Most achievements are becoming fully base on your account and not characters so does it matter if you completed all raids in the remix on mythic for more than one character, no. The remix is fun and Blizzard is trying to let us have fun but going from a fresh character to level 70 and having a powerful cloak in less than a day is to much.

At this point I’d like to start seeing ideas for pvp and pve with the beta. If not now closer time launch

Hi guys ive been playing moba for many years and now wanna play wow, could you suggest me some really dynamic and fast gameplay class (not rogue hate this class-fantasy)? looking for monk rn as dps and protpala or bdk for tanking

soon as i got tusks i dipped lol

I played it for 2 weeks. It was fun. levelled 3 new chars to 70. Hate the entire visuals of china so dont care about mogs. Done. Unsubscribed since was capped on S4 M+ Will come back for next expansion. Stay healthy.

Remix is such a clown fiesta...

I would love to see a video about the buttonbloat. Why is wow dps rotation so god damn complex. I feel like the game would be more fun if did not have to research every class I'd like to play on the Web. We even have addons helping with sorting out dps rotation. Such as hekali. What is skillcapeds take on this and on hekali?